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Old Dec 07, 2009, 01:40 PM // 13:40   #1
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http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/a...thingWoman.jpg

I am making a project called "Real Women" which basically is about drawing
women more realistic in body shape. Women have curves and I for one love
them.

I wouldn't mind some feedback on this piece although it's finished.

This is drawn in Paint tool SAI, if anyone wanted to know.

Unlucky Edit: I don't mind pics like this at all being posted here, but please only post them as regular links. Thanks.
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Old Dec 07, 2009, 02:03 PM // 14:03   #2
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looks good, I like your confident lines.
The shapes look balanced to me, although in reality her waist could be wider.

Things many artists forget when drawing "real women" with "real curves":

1) not all women have obvious curves
2) curves do not always follow the same "rules" (i.e big hips, small waist, big boobs), check out these examples: click me and click me.

One thing to remember could be that women are shaped by their genetics, but also their diet and daily physical tasks. Women who work with computers a lot may have slouched backs, which can make them more apple-shaped. Athletes will have less fat on their bodies; fat shapes hips, tummies and boobs, so all those go down in size. Women who walk a lot will have strong thighs, women who work hard with their hands will have bold arms and grip muscles.
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Old Dec 07, 2009, 02:20 PM // 14:20   #3
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Ah! What lovely links! *bookmark*

I was changing her tummy a few times, and she doesn't have really big boobs, I intentionally made them that exact size as they are not too big but they still are kinda big.

On the next one I'm not gonna make such prominent hipbones and make more tummy.
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Old Dec 07, 2009, 02:41 PM // 14:41   #4
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I agree not all female have the same shapes Tzu. But I think the idea on this topic (which I really like) is that female are hardly found as gw characters (which I think are all hourglass shaped). So it's not really drawing them in a specific shape but more about NOT drawing them the "fancy model with anorectia shapes". The girls in GW look like 14 year olds lol :P I really like the idea, will definatly contribute when I'm done with wintersday

Nice drawing btw Gemini ^^ I agree on the comment Tzu gave you Also her hair seems "broken" where her eye is?
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Old Dec 07, 2009, 02:55 PM // 14:55   #5
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Nice attempt on realism, looks really well. You even included the muscle/fat roll that you get when folding the legs and the hourglass shape you get from rising your arms causing the waist to stretch.

Tough.. for reality.. who still washes like that?
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Old Dec 07, 2009, 02:57 PM // 14:57   #6
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the hair doesn't really look like it is down low enough to actually be covering where the nipples should be, giving her the appearance that she either doesn't have them or they are rediculously high up.
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Old Dec 07, 2009, 03:23 PM // 15:23   #7
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I think the breast should actually be falling a little lower - specially the left one, the right one is brought up by the raised arm (why is she scratching her left year with her right hand, anyway? ) but a bit less imo. And the lips and eyes look like she has been using some heavy makeup.
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Old Dec 07, 2009, 04:33 PM // 16:33   #8
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@Crucist Ovv: Yes, it IS broken where her eye is; to enhance the eye. Kinda like how they do with some manga characters. It's just me playing around.

@xanarot: Thank you Well, in japan they still do to some extent, especially those who doesn't own a bath of their own. I shower like that when I'm in the countryside. Normally at home.. I am lazy and sit down on the floor too :P

@Eragon Zarroc: the nipples are censored ;P

@Jasmine Mc Coy: Both arms are rased so they kinda fall on the right places. I could go for the hang a little lower if I had made them slightly larger though... And the hand: she's cleaning her neck ;P Eyes and lips are... well I'm horrible at colouring lips. The eyes are beautified as things get when you draw them :P
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Old Dec 07, 2009, 05:00 PM // 17:00   #9
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The left arm is not raised enough to move the left breast (I tried that position ) and even if mine are not very big they still fall down, though without the nipples it's hard to figure out the way there are positioned in your picture.
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Old Dec 07, 2009, 05:12 PM // 17:12   #10
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I think it looks nice, but I should do more research :O (I don't mind researching boobs ;D)
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Old Dec 07, 2009, 05:21 PM // 17:21   #11
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I think it looks nice
Thta's exactly the point, usually naked breast doesn't look that great until the woman poses.
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Old Dec 07, 2009, 07:32 PM // 19:32   #12
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I think it looks nice
it does look nice just not 100% anatomically correct is all ;-)
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